Esteban Candelario (00:01.606)
All right guys, we're back with another episode. I don't know what episode number this is, but we're grinding. My name's Esteban, if you don't know me, I'm a coach and mentor. I help producers reach out to artists and turn them into clients. Today, I'm with a producer named Diemond Deryk. Introduce yourself, tell them where you're from, and give a little bit of background.
Diemond Deryk (00:17.886)
What's going on? Diemond Deryk. I am from San Antonio, Texas. Yeah, just been producing since 2004. And yeah, that's pretty much it. Just grinding, know, just selling beats and getting placements and stuff like that. Putting out beat tapes as well. It's a big part of my journey, you know.
Esteban Candelario (00:32.4)
hear that.
Esteban Candelario (00:36.078)
Nice.
Esteban Candelario (00:42.65)
Okay, well then let's start there with the journey as far as beat tapes because you said you started in 2004. When did that like come into play for you?
Diemond Deryk (00:51.05)
So in 2004, I actually started off rapping. So I was rapping and...
Esteban Candelario (00:55.191)
okay.
Diemond Deryk (00:59.074)
I was rapping over other instrumentals, famous instrumentals, then I wanted to put out my own projects with my crew that I was with back in the day. yeah, so I started making beats out of necessity. And then once I started making beats, I just realized this is where my heart belongs. I really fell in love with the production side of things. And even though I kept up with rapping at that time, I was just...
finding my way around, you know, making beats, trying out different programs and stuff and then, yeah, just eventually just stopped rapping altogether and just focused on, you know, setting a nice plate for other artists to eat off of and it's just been, you know, beats ever since.
Esteban Candelario (01:44.324)
So when you go from like rapper to producer full time, how do you turn or how do you, how are you finding people to hop on your beats? Was it just from your network? Cause since you were a rapper or were you reaching out like on your own? did that work?
Diemond Deryk (01:56.854)
So initially when I was rapping and making beats
I was also engineering too at the time, forget. But that was like a very short lived thing. I found out it's not really what I like to do. So when artists would come over to the studio and record, I'd also upsell the beats as well. So it was a lot of word of mouth. That was back in my hometown in Laredo, Texas.
Then fast forward years later, moved up to San Antonio, which that's where I'm at now. And I don't know anybody. I had already been like on a hiatus for a few years. I was still making stuff, but I wasn't putting anything out. So the way I got the word out again was really just posting up on all the platforms, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok as well, casting my
out as wide as possible. I wasn't really cold DMing people, just honestly just putting out videos of my beats myself that was using the platforms as a as an ad I guess per se you know and that's how I was able to get consistent clients.
Esteban Candelario (03:13.84)
No, yeah, egg.
I agree. I like the way that you place it as like an ad and you did mention something you said upsell So I want to touch more on that I don't know if you have a sales background but was there like a specific strategy like in terms of like Did you go in just like releasing stuff like no strategy behind the content or did you create a little strategy or come up with? Something or did it all work out naturally for you?
Diemond Deryk (03:36.814)
I was just...
At first when I came back in 2020, Covid shutdowns and all that stuff, that's when I actually got fired from or let go from my diesel tech job and I thought it was essential, right? But it was at that point that I was like, never going to give anyone that kind of power over me again. So that's when I fully locked into the music stuff and I did not have a strategy at all. It was just like, let me just start putting stuff out.
a strategy at all. The videos I was putting out back in the day were so horrible but you know...
It was my first time really like putting out content, I guess, but I just got better over the over the years, you know, putting out videos with the beats and stuff. So, yeah, I don't I don't know if that answers your question, but I really didn't have a strategy. I was just like, hey, you know what, if someone finds it and they like it, maybe they'll maybe they'll buy it. And that's just kind of been working for me.
Esteban Candelario (04:37.574)
Mm.
Esteban Candelario (04:41.39)
If I had a dollar for every like producer I spoke to that mentioned COVID and how it make them like force them to go to like this shift to do a full time. So I find that so funny. So here we go. Again, 2020 has probably like changed so many people's lives for the best and for the worst. But I've noticed with producers is like it's definitely 100 % push them to the edge. So, I mean, I think no exaggeration. Sometimes the best strategy is just doing it and then you just figure out the rest. You know what I'm saying? Especially when you have that much time on your hands. And I love when you like when you mentioned just like not giving somebody that
because I'm the same exact way. I'm an entrepreneur too and I just don't like working for people. So then talk about the journey. Was it a fast start, slow start? Did you make money in your first 30 days? And how did it accumulate over time?
Diemond Deryk (05:26.114)
it was a lot of education because before I jumped back on, everything was organic word of mouth and I was in my hometown. It was, it was comfortable there. People knew me for that, but I moved over here to San Antonio. Nobody knows who I am. I also was just getting familiar with BeatStars. So I did a lot of like research on that and,
Yeah, I just jumped in and just, I don't know, was just like, know what, whatever sticks. I didn't really give it any thought. So.
my first 30 days on BeatStars I actually made one sale and I had just started a new job. I had no money in my I had no money to my name and I was on my way to the new job working like one of my first shifts there. I had no money on me and I wasn't even sure how I was gonna eat that day but I was just you know sitting at the the stoplight and then I got a notification ma'am you made a sale. I'm like my god what that's when I knew I was like
this is for real so I was so motivated and ever since then it was just been you know pedal to the metal just uploading as much as I can making as many beats as I can you know and then just from there everything just like snowballed just started showing up more on people's feeds and you know in their search results on YouTube, BeatStars, on IG and just I just trusted myself and yeah the money started coming in and it's been
I've been pretty good and been blessed, you
Esteban Candelario (07:10.692)
nothing's better than like receiving a notification and it's about money and it's like, it feels like you made out of thin air then like, don't know your concept of money changes like if kind of feel like money doesn't exist when you can make it that way. But I mean, and also like, I think the moment that it happened was pivotal, like it needed to happen at that moment when you didn't have it and then you received it. Cause I almost feel like that was more of like a sign than it was more about the money, you know? So talk about like, are you still on BeatStars? Do you sell directly or like what's
Diemond Deryk (07:21.45)
It definitely does.
Diemond Deryk (07:33.678)
Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (07:40.636)
really like you know I know every producer has their own way of wanting to make money so how how do you do it per se?
Diemond Deryk (07:46.658)
Yeah, I'm still on BeatStars. That's the platform, the main platform. I use the YouTube to BeatStars funnel. Lately, I've been getting more sales on the marketplace itself, which is pretty foreign to a lot of, I guess, people who are successful on BeatStars or that I know of. lot of people, most of the time I was here and from experience that like, you don't just...
Esteban Candelario (08:05.968)
Mm-hmm.
Diemond Deryk (08:12.994)
throw your on beatstars and sales start happening. No, you gotta bring people back to your beat store. And so that's been my experience for the, I guess, five, six years I've been on there. But lately, I've been getting more sales through the marketplace and then, well, the social media platforms, know, IG, TikTok, people who find me on there, they'll hit the link in bio, you know.
Esteban Candelario (08:17.861)
Yeah.
Diemond Deryk (08:40.226)
takes them directly to my pro page on BeatStars. But yeah, BeatStars is the main place where I sell. Locally, there's people who find me here. Sometimes I'll play shows, I'll do beat sets. And that's where that strategy comes in, where you meet them out in the real world and then you just bring them back to your BeatStars page and make the sale happen like that.
Esteban Candelario (09:05.968)
There's a lot of things I want to talk about, but you really caught my attention with the beat set. How do you end up like performing? Like, are you just making the beats or are like, what's that like?
Diemond Deryk (09:15.736)
Well, I just play the beats that I've made before. I just choose my favorite beats. I gotta know the crowd that I'm gonna be performing in front of. So I've gotten invites from the local shows that happen here. A lot of producer showcases that happen here. Those are pretty cool. So I'll just choose some of my most popular beats that are popular online and I'll just...
put them in my MPC and then just press play, know, press play, let it do what it does. And I've always gotten a sale from every single beats that I've done. I don't like doing the shows to be honest. I really don't like doing them because I just want to stay home and make beats, you know? Like I just want to chill at home, my wife, my dog and like just make beats here at home. But...
Esteban Candelario (10:01.534)
Yeah.
Hahaha
Diemond Deryk (10:09.26)
It's beneficial for me to step out sometimes. The sale doesn't happen right then and there, but it's always someone who catches, like I always catch someone who's like, as soon as I get off stage, like, what's up, man? You get some beats off off of you. The sale might not happen right then and there, but it always does happen from someone that I met at the show. So that's pretty cool.
Esteban Candelario (10:30.928)
So, I mean, if you could go back like five years from when you really like took things off from BeatStars, what would you do differently to give you more of a head start that you learn now?
Diemond Deryk (10:41.822)
I would have started the YouTube channel a lot sooner. I would have started it right then and there. Like, cause it took me a while. I was like, no, I don't want to, or I don't know what it was. think, I don't know why I didn't start the YouTube channel earlier. I just, and then, and then once I did that made a world of difference. Like that's what I understood. Like, cause I always heard about it, but I, but it wasn't until I actually saw it for myself, like,
Esteban Candelario (10:44.07)
Okay.
Diemond Deryk (11:08.187)
that is like the main source where people actually go and search up for beats.
Esteban Candelario (11:14.19)
Is there like a specific formula you have for your YouTube?
Diemond Deryk (11:18.062)
Upload consistently man. I've been I use a keyword keywords for me what's working for me is throwing up stuff like I Really like a bunch of different things. So it's a little bit hard for me to like Find success in in YouTube, but what's working for me is like
Esteban Candelario (11:22.118)
Okay.
Mm.
Diemond Deryk (11:45.388)
tagging it correctly like I'll put up something like you know Conductor Williams or
or Earl Sweatshirt type beat. It doesn't mean that I'm making a one for one Conductor Williams type of beat or an Earl Sweatshirt type of beat, but obviously I'm in the framework of people who are searching for that kind of specific feeling or that kind of sound. So I'll just feed them that. It all has to do with the...
Well first you gotta figure out what you like, what you love, you don't wanna be like putting up stuff, you don't wanna be making or get caught in that circle of like making things that you're like, I know Drake beats a sale.
But if you don't like listen to Drake and you don't like Drake, then you're gonna hate it. So you gotta like, for me, that's what works for me. I like Earl Sweatshirt, like Conductor Williams production, the Grimeer, Boom Bap stuff. So within that wheelhouse, figuring out the keywords that work for you, that's what works for me.
Esteban Candelario (12:36.966)
Yeah.
Diemond Deryk (12:58.486)
and the thumbnail man you gotta have a good thumbnail because if your thumbnail doesn't look good no one's gonna click on it anyways
Esteban Candelario (13:07.014)
So then talk about that process because I've always like considered thumbnails because sometimes the thumbnail is what makes me click I think that's what makes most people click so like is there like specific process for you or do you just using your judgment like strictly just your judgment or like how does that work?
Diemond Deryk (13:16.119)
yeah.
Diemond Deryk (13:22.887)
yeah, just, hey, if I like the picture, I think it looks cool. I'll use it.
Esteban Candelario (13:29.062)
Okay, that's simple. so what are your what are your beat tapes coming to play? I know you mentioned that earlier So like how do they come into the fold with BeatStars and YouTube and all that stuff?
Diemond Deryk (13:31.736)
Yeah.
Diemond Deryk (13:39.086)
So, this is I guess what people consider controversial but like me, like I mentioned I like casting my net out as wide as possible. I'll be making beats and I'll upload them to BeatStars, YouTube and you know.
If they sell, that's great. If they don't, doesn't matter anyways, because I'm still going to grab those same beats and I'm going to mix them in a way to put them up in a beat tape and I'll drop like a little project of some of my favorite beats that I made that year. yeah, I was dropping beat tapes a long time ago, like when I initially started, but I kind of like fell off of that.
that ship for a while but like now like last year I really started hitting it better. I dropped the tape last year, dropped another one this year. I'm actually working on another one so I'll probably be dropping like two more this year but trying to get back on that wave of really putting out projects. That way I can you know either capitalize off of the sale or the tape itself you know. Like I said casting my net out as wide as possible.
Esteban Candelario (14:37.328)
Thanks.
Esteban Candelario (14:48.454)
So and what and What ways are you like capitalizing is it just DSPs or bandcamp like where are you releasing them exactly? Okay
Diemond Deryk (14:56.59)
Yeah, everything, everything. DSPs, Bandcamp, copies as well. is the new one I just dropped. Bandcamp, DSPs, physicals, everything. I try not to leave anything on the table.
Esteban Candelario (15:03.46)
Nice, that's sick.
Esteban Candelario (15:18.532)
Nice. So now that I didn't know you actually sold physical tapes, so how does that work and how well does that do just as well as selling the digital copies on Bandcamp or what's the process for you and what's that like? What? Okay. Interesting. And how does that work? Do you have a back end? You're sending out emails or is it just word of mouth? What's your strategy behind that?
Diemond Deryk (15:31.458)
For me the physical copy sold more than the digital. Yeah.
Diemond Deryk (15:45.262)
Yeah, word of mouth works for me. Yeah, just I know a bunch of friends and people who like music and stuff, a lot of music collectors. So anytime I drop something, I'll just put a video up on the social media platforms and they'll just, you know, cop it from there. Or if they see me in person, if I go to a show, you know, I always have a couple of CDs or whatever on me and sell from there.
Esteban Candelario (15:46.862)
Really nice.
Esteban Candelario (16:01.434)
Wow. Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (16:12.036)
Nice. No, that's probably the hardest part to get supporters to buy physical stuff. You know what I'm saying? Especially now, things are commoditized digitally. mean, think DSPs ruined it for artists. can't even make money. You're making pennies on the dollar, or for producers too. You know what I'm saying? So what do you want to do now? What's the next steps for you? Is there anything you're trying to envision or any goals that you have?
Diemond Deryk (16:27.246)
Yeah.
Diemond Deryk (16:36.938)
No, nothing, nothing new. Just stay the course, you know, just continue producing. I mean, I would like bigger placements and I have a feeling, man, like I feel like I'm getting very close to like some of my not my dream placements, but like I'm getting like I feel like I'm inching my way towards there, you know. But as far as like new goals or anything, I'll just keep dropping, trying to outdo myself from the last beat, trying to make the
Esteban Candelario (16:44.006)
Okay.
Diemond Deryk (17:06.808)
trying to make a beat better than the last one I made, you know. Just always trying to level up my own sound, my own craft. just, yeah, just personal goals I have is to hit 600 beats on BeatStars. And I'm like half, or not halfway there, but I have like 50 more beats to go, which I'll probably hit before the end of the year.
Esteban Candelario (17:12.677)
Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (17:21.744)
Nice.
Esteban Candelario (17:26.79)
Nice.
Esteban Candelario (17:30.468)
So, I mean, talk about that. We talked about the things that working out for you. like how, what, I mean, what placements would you like? And then also like, what's the process like for you in order to try to get the placements that you want?
Diemond Deryk (17:42.35)
shit. I would like, Rome streets, you know, Rome streets placement would be great. West side gun, Benny the butcher and con Wayne, you know, all those, all those guys. Excuse me. Yeah, man. All of those guys would like to work with them. how I figure I can go about it or, you know, let's just keep putting out dope shit. I wanted to be undeniable, man.
Esteban Candelario (17:47.046)
Nice.
Esteban Candelario (18:09.09)
Yeah.
Diemond Deryk (18:11.886)
Recently this year I've been getting people tagging them in my stuff a lot so Vinny pass from Jedi mind tricks actually messaged me
Esteban Candelario (18:17.03)
Thanks.
Esteban Candelario (18:21.491)
Mmm, that's sick, nice.
Diemond Deryk (18:22.912)
last year like at the very end of last year and he just like dm'd me i woke up to that dm and he's like yo man your beats are gas and will that ever amount to anything probably not but like that cosine right there was all i needed i'm still kind of high off of that man like so i still so that means i know people are seeing me i know these bigger bigger people you know i'm showing up on their algorithms and they're on their feet so i mean it's only a matter of time before
Esteban Candelario (18:34.767)
Hmm.
Diemond Deryk (18:50.754)
I feel like that'll happen.
Esteban Candelario (18:54.254)
No, that's that's like no Vinny Vinny is a legend. But I mean, yeah, I mean, I can already tell what your sound is just from like the grazelle to line up and a lot of people don't know Rome Rome with the Rome streets. He's pretty he's pretty low key. But so where do you where do you kind of go from from that? Because, know, like, you know, you have the eyes on you. Is there any plans for you to like take it anywhere else or you just want to keep it as natural as possible? Be consistent and have them reach out to you.
Diemond Deryk (18:57.26)
and then.
Diemond Deryk (19:23.701)
I mean I guess it's all situational there's there's um yeah so there was an artist I found in in 2020 that had like so I found this artist in 2020 and I thought he was super fucking dope and he had he had like I think like 200 monthly listeners but like every time I would check back it was just growing exponentially right and
Esteban Candelario (19:47.397)
Mmm.
Diemond Deryk (19:49.898)
I had reached out to him prematurely because I say prematurely because looking back I knew my beats weren't that great but I knew I wanted to work with him and I knew we would do well. nothing amounted from that. But then last year I kept posting up stuff and last year he actually reached out to me and was like yo man what's good like this shit's crazy. And so yeah just keep things natural.
Sorry, my dog's like, yo, I need to go outside. So yeah, just keep things natural. Hopefully, you know, I land on one of their pages or they find me. you know, like I said, just try and be undeniable to where you can't deny what I have. so, but if it never happens, I'm not even gonna be worried about it, man, because I'm just gonna keep doing.
Esteban Candelario (20:21.2)
You're good. Yeah, my dog's bugging too.
Esteban Candelario (20:42.022)
Mm.
Diemond Deryk (20:44.556)
Whether I made money from this or I made any placements or not, it doesn't matter because I was just going to do the music anyways, man.
Esteban Candelario (20:51.334)
Yeah.
I think that's the most important part. A lot of times, and you mentioned it earlier, especially with the YouTube, if you're just so focused on the algorithm and you're just trying to make beats that you're gonna make money, you're gonna hate it eventually. I talked to a producer, said the same exact thing. He said he quit it because he just hated it and he just went back to just making beats for fun. And I think at the end of the day, if you have that mindset, whether I do make money or whether I don't make money, I'm gonna be doing this. And I think what a lot of producers don't realize is the money comes last. Usually, never ever comes first, and that's just life in general. You know what I mean?
So what people forget is like at the end of the day I mean the passion is what drives you and then that is what's gonna lead to the opportunities But I do want to explore more down that path Because you did mention like you kind of ran into this guy who only had 200 monthly listeners on Spotify Do you usually like keep an eye out for like fresh talent and do you reach out to them and or what's that? What's that like for you? Okay
Diemond Deryk (21:46.254)
Yeah, I definitely don't do that anymore. I definitely don't like look for artists anymore because
And I don't want this to come off like, like full of myself or, or, you know, with my chin up, up in the air. But like, I think I've already put myself or I've gotten to a point where I don't need to do that anymore. Like look for artists and like, and like reach out and stuff like that. Like I think I'm at a point where now we're like, I know where I'm at and you know.
Yeah, I'm not really, to be honest, I don't even really listen to music anymore, I'm still, yeah, man, I'm so music out, like, I'm too busy making it. I don't know if that makes sense, but like even on the car, like even in the vehicle, man, I'm just, I don't even have music on. I'm just driving in complete silence. Which is crazy, because a lot of other producers told me the same thing, man. They're like, what? I thought I was the only one that did that. I'm like, nah, man, I don't even listen to music.
Esteban Candelario (22:23.814)
Really? What? Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (22:36.752)
Bro.
Diemond Deryk (22:48.174)
You know what? actually do listen to music when I'm sampling but yeah, I'm not really looking out for anybody new anymore man. I got my circle that I work with and then someone else wants to jump on the beats and they know where to go man. The beat store's there.
Esteban Candelario (22:51.745)
Mmm, okay.
Esteban Candelario (23:08.356)
Nice. Now that's funny. I totally agree, especially when you're, because you're basically listening to music all day because you're producing like, know what I'm saying? So, but that's not including all the samples that you listen to before they become the samples. Walk me through that process. I know I have some producers like ask me like in my community, like, like, should I even sample? Like, is it even worth it? So have you ever ran into any issues as far as like artists hopping on your, you know, your beats and the samples being cleared or, or anything like that?
Diemond Deryk (23:37.646)
Uh, no, I mean, I really try and... Well, now I haven't ran into any issues, but I know that's at least not yet. On my own channel, I have gotten like, hey, you know what, this is a copyright. It's not a strike, so it doesn't affect my channel. It just means that I can't monetize it. So nothing, nothing like big trouble like that.
Besides as far as the artists go I always state if I'm using a sample in the BeatStars contract when I'm uploading the beats It'll ask you there like hey does this have any know samples or loops and I always put the information Leave it up to the artists whether or not they want to make that purchase or not
So yeah, I really try and go for like royalty free stuff or track lib is good. However, lately I've just been finding some really good stuff that I'm like, man, there's no way I can't flip this, you know? And I'll even go as far as like doing my own research, like, you know, go to the websites where you can check if something's been sampled or not. And if it hasn't been sampled and yeah, I'm gonna use it.
Esteban Candelario (24:38.65)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (24:56.006)
That isn't that rare though because I've had issues where like I thought I tried to do the same thing and I find like a million songs a sample did before I sampled I just like never knew I never heard of these songs or is that not like a reoccurring issue for you Yeah
Diemond Deryk (25:08.596)
I'm sometimes but I'm this is my bread and butter so like I'm digging really high and low man I'm going for really some rare stuff I got a couple guys
I shouldn't even be saying this, but I got a couple guys, one of them is in Russia and the other one I think is in the Netherlands. And I pay them a pretty penny monthly to hold some stuff for me. They kind of know what I'm looking for and what I like. So yeah. Yeah, they help me, they help me a
Esteban Candelario (25:35.662)
Really? Really?
Esteban Candelario (25:41.795)
I that's the first time I ever heard people pay other people in other countries to find vinyls for you, to find music for you. What? No, that's a new method. I know of, I know of. That's a cool method. And you trust their ear? How good is their ear? is it like, really? What?
Diemond Deryk (25:51.426)
Yeah, they'll rip them for me and send me the files. Yeah, so...
Diemond Deryk (26:03.883)
yeah, no, I pay them. I pay them. I pay them monthly,
Esteban Candelario (26:08.166)
Nah, that's insane. And they rip it and put it on an MP3 and they give it to you? Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. I don't think I ever heard of that. Do you see yourself ever producing outside of samples if you don't already? I'm not 100 % sure if you do. Okay.
Diemond Deryk (26:13.088)
Nah waves, baby. I gotta have the waves. Yeah
Diemond Deryk (26:24.45)
Yeah, no, I do make my own stuff sometimes too, but I mean...
I love sampling. can, have the ability to do it. I do do that sometimes, make my own melodies and even make my own samples, but my heart's in sampling, man. I was actually telling my wife not that long ago that I'm very jealous of her because she like paints and she does crafts and stuff, but she gets to listen to music while she does that. And I'm like, I'm so jealous of you all because you get to listen to music while you do the things that you love. And me, I can't do that. I can't listen
Esteban Candelario (26:29.838)
Yeah, that's fun.
Diemond Deryk (26:58.548)
music while I'm trying to make it. So I think that's where like sampling scratches that itch for me. I get to listen to music while I you know or you know listen a little bit of music while I sample it. But yeah I mean I do I do make my own stuff sometimes. It's just not where my heart is. I love sampling man. It's just so good. Especially being able to you know flip it in and
Esteban Candelario (27:00.806)
Mmm.
Esteban Candelario (27:04.582)
Mm-hmm.
Esteban Candelario (27:22.478)
I'm, no.
Diemond Deryk (27:27.498)
Make it unrecognizable.
Esteban Candelario (27:28.708)
Mm.
I think it's one of those things that I mean, I don't think it'll ever die. But there will always be like a subculture for that too. I feel like that's what it's turned into as well. Like just the beats itself, like the boom-bap beats itself. I feel like it's its own subculture. It was hip hop, but now it's like it's its own thing. Especially when you have people like knowledge, mind design, when you have people like in the community like that, I don't think it'll really ever die. So I know you mentioned like upselling and you mentioned a couple other words. I was just curious, like did you have any like sales background when it came to like selling beats?
Or is it just stuff you learned like as you went?
Diemond Deryk (28:05.038)
don't know. I don't really think I have a sales background. Well, so in middle school, like, I mean, you know, once I got to middle school, like, they always had like these snack bars and like, you know, we didn't grow up, you know, rich or anything like, I mean,
Esteban Candelario (28:13.552)
Yeah.
Diemond Deryk (28:28.672)
I wasn't given money to buy from the snack bar at school so what I was doing was selling drawings and selling graffiti pieces just so I can go get those extra chicken strips or whatever at school. I think that's where it comes from. It was out of necessity I guess. like, I want that. How do I get it? I wasn't going to steal. My parents didn't have money to give me so I'm
Esteban Candelario (28:38.118)
Nice.
Esteban Candelario (28:42.776)
Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (28:51.066)
Yeah.
Diemond Deryk (28:58.576)
well what can I do? like you know what let me take this pen this paper let me draw something dope and sell it and so I guess I mean I don't know if that answers your question but yeah that's where that came from I mean so I just used that like was like okay what are the raw materials I have in front of me what can I do with them and how can I sell this you know
Esteban Candelario (29:09.432)
It does, it does.
Esteban Candelario (29:21.426)
It does say a lot because automatically I can tell like what kind of person you are like, know what I'm saying? Like some I don't know how explain it Some people are born with it and some people learn it or some people just never get it, you know So, I mean especially when it comes to producing and being an artist because let's be honest for there's really no like money in the music industry if you don't create it yourself or if you're not on a huge platform especially for artists, but since we're more so talking about producers It's the same difference, but you kind of have to especially starting off small create it for like yourself, especially
Diemond Deryk (29:31.756)
Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (29:51.263)
you know? So, I mean, what do you think that's just something most people are born with? And if you don't have it, it's not something you can learn? Or is that something you kind of like learned yourself, or you were just born with it? How was it for you?
Diemond Deryk (30:04.906)
I don't know. I'm not really sure how to gauge that. I never really even gave it any thought. I was just like, man, I gotta do it, you know. So I don't know if I was born with it or maybe I just developed it out of necessity. So I'm not really sure. Maybe I was born with it. I would like to think that I was born with it, but maybe I wasn't and I had to develop it.
Esteban Candelario (30:13.188)
Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (30:23.686)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Diemond Deryk (30:28.814)
I know my dad had started some businesses before and so maybe that's where that's where I got it from
Esteban Candelario (30:31.98)
Mmm, okay. Yeah.
100 % 100 % I mean it's a little bit of everything I think one being born with it and then to being in the environment that forces it out You know what I'm saying? Some people are born with talents but because of their environment and never truly comes out of them You know what I'm saying? And then for you in particular like you know, especially when you're a kid you do things like unintentionally, know It's like hey, I won't do this because I want that but I'm not doing it because I want to create like monetization and I want you know I'm saying a business. It's kind of like a and B, know, as you become an adult It gets a little bit more complicated because you have car a house
Diemond Deryk (30:49.623)
Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (31:06.082)
family, you know what I mean? So kind of like, you know, when is your next mixtape coming out? like, you know, I know you mentioned you might drop two this year, what kind of stops you from dropping a little bit more often?
Diemond Deryk (31:06.434)
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Diemond Deryk (31:22.094)
Just the focus. It's not like a... I'm not saying it's not a priority. It's just... I just really love the process of making the beats, man. So then, like... Let me give you an example. I have all of these right here.
All of those are on the one side and then this other side are all a of like beats that are somewhat of a lot of them are finished and some are unfinished but I just need to go back down that list and like I guess I need to narrow it down to like make it a consumable product so there's that but like every day I wake up I'm like I just want to make something new like
So I guess what's really stopping me is that I just need to set some time to not create anymore and just focus on... Because if I wanted to, I can drop both of them right now. But that would require me to actually sit down, take the day out, and they're already finished. So the beats are already finished. I just need to arrange them and get them to where they're all fluid.
Esteban Candelario (32:06.886)
Mm-hmm
Diemond Deryk (32:31.8)
then do the artwork for it and stuff like that. So yeah, I just need to buckle down, I guess. I'm just so, know.
I just love the creation process. So I'll just be creating, creating, creating, and then like it won't be, it would be forever until I like stop and I look and I'm like, okay, shit, have all these, let me put something out, You know, so that's pretty much what stopping me. I just need to, I just need to do it.
Esteban Candelario (33:07.782)
You
I feel like a lot of like people who make music they have like ADHD and it's always something damn What's the I forgot it's called something something syndrome like it's like I don't know it's golden-goose syndrome or something like you see something shiny or whatever it is like You know what I'm saying you want to do it and then you see something new I want to do this and you see something and it's kind of like you're chasing all these new things, know And I think for most people that's probably like the hardest part especially creative people is There's always more to create but there's always the painting or music or whatever it is right in front of you Like, you know, I think that's the most important thing is the one in front
you, not the new one you want to create. And then I guess it's more so the chase is what people like, especially if you hear a sample, you're like, I need to do something for this. Like, or you Yeah, so I mean, it's kind of like an infinite, infinite amount of options for people. And sometimes like, too many options isn't good. Ironically. But is that is that how how is your creative process? You know, are you listening to all of the samples that are
Diemond Deryk (33:59.17)
Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (34:10.098)
are thrown to you or given to you from your people that help find it? Or do you just lock in and make a drum pattern first and then find a sample that suits it? What's that process like?
Diemond Deryk (34:20.558)
It's never really the same to be honest. Cause I mean, yeah, I have the homies that, know, those two guys that I mentioned earlier. Yeah, they, they, they helped me out a lot, but not everything that they send me is something that I use. So I'm digging by myself as well. got a bunch of records. I actually got a stack of records I need to go through as well. Um,
curated my YouTube algorithm to find stuff as well. Spotify, just, and then, yeah, sometimes I start with a sample, sometimes I start with drums. It's never really, I don't like to, you know, to pigeonhole, is that the right word? Pigeonhole myself to like one process, just whatever, whatever I'm feeling that day. Like I said, I also make some of my own stuff too, so sometimes I'll just start with a baseline.
Esteban Candelario (34:48.174)
Yeah.
Esteban Candelario (35:02.426)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Diemond Deryk (35:15.524)
really the same. Lately it has been sample first but yeah it's never the same. It doesn't stay the same for too long.
Esteban Candelario (35:26.694)
What's the collaboration like? Do you usually collaborate with other producers? Is there a reason? If you don't want me asking.
Diemond Deryk (35:30.285)
No.
No, don't.
Diemond Deryk (35:40.366)
Yeah, I mean, because I don't need to. I know, like I don't... I have, I'm not saying I haven't, but you know, I don't really do, like I don't need to. If I am struggling with something, I know there are producers that I can reach out to that will help me out with something, but yeah, I don't really need to.
Esteban Candelario (35:44.518)
Okay
Esteban Candelario (36:08.496)
I hear that. Yeah, I mean, that's true. A lot of producers, they like to collab to grow, especially if other producers have like platforms. So like I kind of kind of get if you don't need to do it. But also, man, I mean, I think that's it. I think that's all the questions that I have.
Is there actually before we go one last question. What's one advice you would give to a producer who is exactly where you were at in 2004 when they were starting off trying to hit the ground running before we go? What would that be?
Diemond Deryk (36:41.452)
good question and I thought about that a lot and my answer is don't ever stop because I stopped for a while or not I didn't like stop stop but I did take a little hiatus and most of it if not all of it was because I didn't believe in myself
Esteban Candelario (36:43.802)
Yeah
Esteban Candelario (36:49.284)
Hmm
Diemond Deryk (37:00.838)
And I know there's that story that everyone has, the success story that everyone has where they're like, you know, no one believed in me, blah, blah, blah. But you know what? I didn't have that. I had the greatest support system from my family and my friends. know, everyone told me I got it and it was just me. I didn't believe in myself until I started believing in myself. And I just never stop, man. That's the best advice I can give someone. If you love it, never stop.
Esteban Candelario (37:23.514)
Mm-hmm
Diemond Deryk (37:30.368)
If you love it, don't ever stop. yeah, that's the best advice I can give.
Esteban Candelario (37:37.062)
Sweet man, tell them where they can find you, all socials, all platforms.
Diemond Deryk (37:41.07)
All social media platforms is gonna be the same handle, @diemonddtx. Instagram, Bandcamp as well, same thing, the handle is gonna be the same, diemonddtx. YouTube, the same, diemonddtx. And yeah, that's pretty much it. BeatStars as well man, of course, hit up my BeatStars, Diemond Deryk.
Esteban Candelario (38:04.038)
Sweet. Awesome, man. Thanks for hopping on.
Diemond Deryk (38:11.829)
And yeah, we're good.
Esteban Candelario (38:13.201)
Copy that. Okay. All right. Thanks for hopping on there. I appreciate it, Peace.
Diemond Deryk (38:15.68)
Hey, thank you for having me, man.